om·ni·pres·ent [om-nuh-prez-uhnt] adjective; present everywhere at the same time: the omnipresent God. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/omnipresent)
In Christian Theology, the first thing we have to answer is if God is omnipresent. The answer from Holy Scripture is clearly yes. (1Ki 8:27; Ps 113:5; 123:1; 139:8; Jer 23:23-24; Mat 6:9; 18:20; Rom 8:9; 10:6-7; 1Co 1:27; Eph 2:22)
So, from Scripture, God is indeed omnipresent. He fills the heavens and the earth; He is in our midst when we are gathered in His name, and so on. Our God is omnipresent. You cannot hide from Him nor escape from Him.
So, having established that, let's move on to the Triune God; or as commonly formulated: The Trinity, consisting of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever. Amen.
So, having established that the omnipresence of God is indeed a Christian belief and doctrine, let us turn our gaze to the three persons of the Trinity. If God is omnipresent, is the Father omnipresent? Clearly, the answer is yes, since the Father is God. What about the Holy Spirit? If He omnipresent? Once again, since the Holy Spirit is God, the answer is yes.
What about Jesus Christ, the Son? Is He omnipresent? Well, if we affirm the deity of Christ, this answer should be a no-brainer. Of course He is omnipresent. Yet, here is where we run into problems historically. The orthodox Christian teaching has always been that Christ is omnipresent. There is no question about that. Likewise, I do think it is affirmed across the board that since Christ is God, He is omnipresent. I would not dispute that Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans, Calvinists, and Baptists would all affirm that. Jesus Christ is omnipresent.
But beyond this simple definition, the disagreements start to fly. The next question that pops up is: HOW is Christ omnipresent? I think, if we simply keep our Christology orthodox, we can answer this one. The best treatment of these issues can be found at the First Council of Ephesus in 431 and the Council of Chalcedon in 451.
Christ is God, we affirm this along with every other Trinitarian Christian group. Yet, some Christian groups have some big errors when giving as answer to how Christ is omnipresent. The most prevalent error that is still extremely common today is called Nestorianism. This ancient (and modern!) heresy holds that the two natures of Christ, divine and human, are only loosely related, and can be separated, but never mixed.
How does this relate to omnipresence of Christ? Well, generally this comes up when we talk about the Lord's Supper. One person might say: Well, Christ ascended to heaven, therefore He is in heaven alone and nowhere else. Clearly, this is actually a denial of the omnipresence of Christ, but it is not necessarily Nestorian. Proponents of this view would thus take a very memorialist view of the Lord's Supper, saying that the bread and wine are only metaphorical or figurative. Christ is not present in the sacrament because Christ is not with us; He is in heaven.
Another person may say: Christ is omnipresent according to His divinity but not according to His humanity. He ascended and thus the man Christ is in heaven at the right hand of God. But He is still God, so His divinity is omnipresent. This is very Nestorian, whether the person intends to be or not. For Christ to be present according to His divinity but not His humanity, you necessarily need to split the natures of Christ.
This IS My body |
Of course, the biggest historical proponent of this view was John Calvin. Personally, I don't think Calvin intended to be Nestorian in this regard. Calvin was a serious student of Holy Scripture who simply desired to reckon with two things in the Eucharist: The real presence of Christ and the Ascension of Christ. I appreciate Calvin's desire to be faithful to Scripture here, but he ended up with a faulty conclusion.
The problem is that the Ascension of Christ does not make Christ confined to heaven. He is still God and therefore is still omnipresent, which Calvin affirms, of course. However, in order to account for the Ascension, Calvin ends up splitting the natures of Christ in his doctrine of the Lord's Supper. 17th century Reformed theologians put forth the phrase and idea "Finitum non capax infiniti." Or, in English: The Finite Cannot Contain the Infinite. This, of course, is in regards to the Eucharist.
But, here is the problem. It's false. If you stretch that idea too far, you end up denying the Incarnation of Christ. I mean, Christ is a man, right? Men are finite, right? Christ is God too, right? So the finite can contain the infinite. Christ is still Christ. Christ is still God.
So then when Christ says "This is My body" and "This is My blood," we should simply take Him at His Word here. He is God. He is omnipresent. He is both fully God and fully man. Thus, the full Christ is present in the sacrament. The God man is there amongst us, bodily. To separate the body of Christ from the divinity of Christ, well, that is Nestorianism. And we shouldn't go there. It's heretical, per Ephesus (431) and Chalcedon (451).
To affirm that Christ is not present in the sacrament either due to a memorialist view or a view that lifts us to heaven to partake in faith is akin to saying "this is NOT My body."
So Christ is God and is omnipresent. Objections that He cannot be present in the sacrament are both foolish and erroneous. Uh, He's the Son of God and stuff. He can be present wherever He wants to be.
Especially if He said so.
So Christ is God and is omnipresent. Objections that He cannot be present in the sacrament are both foolish and erroneous. Uh, He's the Son of God and stuff. He can be present wherever He wants to be.
Especially if He said so.
This is very good. The only problem when applying this to Christ's Word instituting the Lord's Supper is that it precludes the possibility that Jesus was speaking only metaphorically. Figurative language, including metaphor, is used in Scripture, right? So, the task for anyone seeking to understand not just the Bible but any document is to understand when the intent is literal and when it is figurative. Therefore, I don't think it is necessarily as simple as saying, "we should simply take [Christ] at His Word here." That assumes His intent while ignoring a purely figurative possibility, doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteYeah, I would agree with you there, Mr. Anonymous. :) I didn't address that possibility at all in this post...you are correct. And certainly you're correct that Scripture allows for metaphor.
ReplyDeleteI would recommend reading Chemnitz' book "The Lord's Supper." He addresses that very topic and does a fine job at it.
Jesus commanded it (the Supper...and Baptism).
ReplyDeleteHe never commanded that we do anything wherein He wouldn't be present in it.
He's not into empty religious ritual for shits and giggles.
Right...and that's where the figurative/memorialist view makes no sense. What is the point of these things (baptism/Supper) if they're bare symbols that do nothing other than invoke a pious remembrance?
ReplyDeleteThanks. I'll check out that book. Not trying to be argumentative. Trying to really just see what is what without reading things into it. I may consider, for example, it to be an "empty religious ritual" if it is a mere remembrance or symbol, but what I think doesn't really matter. What Jesus meant is what matters. Otherwise, I'm just reading my theology and conclusions back into it all.
ReplyDeleteAnd to say "He never commanded that we do anything wherein He wouldn't be present in it" is fine, too. But if I asked for examples, would I get the Supper and Baptism? Wouldn't that be a bit circular? I'm not necessarily disagreeing as I am trying to be sure of what it all really means. Even if I agree but the reasoning is circular, for example, I'm not happy with that.
No problem (to ask). I had to learn it. And I learned it when I was about 40 years old.
DeleteYes. He is present in the sacraments of Baptism and Holy Communion. He commanded that we do these things. They are pure gospel. Doing TO us that which He wills, apart from anything that we do, say, feel, or think.
That we might have real assurance that He is for us. That the Cross would be literally brought to bear in our own personal histories, tangibly.
Thanks.
Mathetes;
ReplyDeleteConsider the words of St. Paul:
1 Co 11:29-30: For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.
This passage alone argues strongly against the memorialist-only stance.
I also would like to add: Please feel free to challenge any ideas and doctrines put forth here on this blog. We are not opposed to that in any way, so long as people are not being asinine about it. :)
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